Roboseyo's Way After The Fact Movie Reviews
wait a minute. . . this movie's been in Korea for about two months, but is still waiting for its North American release. . . what an interesting thing, to be both after the fact and before the fact at the same time.
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You are truly a weird, entertaining man, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. I am adding a star to this post so that I can print it and read it while lounging somewhere comfortable
Thanks, Otto. Actually, I take that as the highest kind of praise:
one of the coolest compliments I ever received, one which I treasure right up there with the time my high-school math teacher told me he hopes his daughter marries someone like me, was the time one of my old coworkers told me,
"Rob, I have to smoke pot to see the world the way you see it all the time."
Greatest sword fights of all-time? Are all of these commenters under 30? The greatest sword fights took place in the "Adventures of Robin Hood" and "Captain Blood" back in 1935 and 1938 between Errol Flynn and Basil Rathbone aka Sherlock Holmes. Too bad those recent insipid Disney pirate movies weren't more like these classics. These greats, and others like them from before 1970, are readily available in numerous formats for those needing a little education on the subject.
Also, I think you are wrong here: "better your children than ours"/"security by any, and we mean any means necessary." They haven't been nuked out of existence, had everything bombed into rubble, or been experimented on with chemical or biological weapons like Saddam did to those not of his specific religious orientation or party (the Kurds for one).
The U.S. thought that the people of Iraq would rise about their petty squabbles and religious differences and come together to create a better place for their children to live in after the removal of Saddam, but the black gold under the land is too corrupting to too many which include even those in neighboring countries who are pulling strings of their own for as many barrels of crude as they can get their bloody fingers on as well. Worse, even religions aren't immune to the disease of wealth.
Right now, creating turmoil in this land by justifying it in the name of one's god, or gods, is good tactics because eventually the U.S. will leave, and oil will be worth an absolute fortune for whoever controls the pipelines. It may end up being Iran, or Syria, or Russia, or even China. Just look at this nonsense playing out in South Korea over extreme nationalism. Who really has the most to gain from it all? I can tell you who has the most to lose. It's good old Uncle Sam. However, I do believe that those in the northern part of Iraq are most grateful for the U.S. invasion and presence there.
John from Daejeon
John: re: errol flynn: yeah, I wish I had a chance to see some of that stuff. I heard the sword fight scene in one of the old Hamlets is pretty epic. . . but I couldn't find it on Youtube to put it up here.
meanwhile, re: subtexts in the movie Taken. . . I'll let Luc Besson know how you feel next time I see him; however, I do kind of agree with him that the good that some point to which has/may have been accomplished is kind of undermined by the other crap that goes on, as well as the crap upon which pretenses the war was started in the first place. --I think the point still stands that Papa Bear's methods have sapped any moral authority we might have offered him because he was going after his daughter, by the sheer extremes he goes to, to get her back. In the end, he got what he wanted, yeah, but he's not a hero -- he's just another part of the story, just another character looking out for the things HE wants, above the things others want. I think we could argue the same with the US in Iraq: sure, US is a country playing for its own interests on the world stage. . . but like Papa Bear, because of all that's gone on there, I don't think there's anything heroic about it anymore. US got its oil, Papa Bear got his daughter. . . so what?
Beyond that, I'm not gonna go toe to toe with you on what I think about the Iraq war (especially not on a post about a movie), but thanks for weighing in.
-roboseyo
My last post on this post. You can catch Errol's flicks on Turner Classic Movies quite often or buy them off Amazon.com pretty cheaply as they are rather old. Sort of difficult to do over here but not impossible. I can even burn you a copy if you are interested, but they aren't pristine copies. They were originally on that outmoded data storage medium known as video tape, but I copied them to a dvd. I also have an extra copy of Shawn Matthews' "Island of Fantasy" memoir. A truly great read which I can send you if you are still interested.
And, you are right about the film: "just another character looking out for the things HE wants, above the things others want." That's the way the power players in the world work. Give the masses bread and circuses to keep them occupied and from asking questions. Tragically, most people don't know of the atrocities happening in North Korea and Darfur today or that happened in WW II when the Japanese did their own experimenting on prisoners of war and Chinese citizens with chemical and biological weapons because of people in power looking out for what "they" want above all else.
We can put our heads in the sand and wish that everything in the world was peachy keen, but there are those out there willing to do anything and everything to pursue their own agendas. I know I wouldn't push Russia or China very far. It's alarming just how many of Russia's journalists have died under mysterious circumstances in recent years.
BTW, for those who may not know, the U.S. did not get Iraq's oil. It goes to Iraq's government. I know that the U.S. would like a share of it, but it will be a long time coming as no one know's how all this will end up playing out, when new infrastructure will be built, and if the pipeline bombings will ever stop (Nigeria is having their own troubles in that department). Also the Kurds don't want to share their future oil wealth with those in the mid and southern sections of the country. "60 Minutes" had a great piece on the good that actually came from the war in the north; however, sectarian violence to the south gets most of the press. Even the unbiased press is usually actually biased in some way or another.
I'm close to leaving South Korea as my second contract is up at the end of this summer, but I hope to keep following your great blog. I'm glad that there are some people, like yourself, out there willing to show the whole broad picture and not just the narrow obscure shadows that could lead to mass hysteria.
John from Daejeon
Thanks for your postings on this page, John from Daejeon: I've appreciated them.
I posted my response to you yesterday, and then wanted to amend it, but my computer's on the blink, so I have to do things from the office computer:
the thing I wanted to say is simply that, when I said "there's nothing heroic" about the Iraq war, I should have qualified that I mean that in terms of the decision makers' choice to go in there 1. upon false pretenses, and 2. without a detailed plan for what to do after Saddam was dislodged from power: it was not meant to diminish the valour of the soldiers out there doing their best following orders; simply to question those who put them there with a "cross our fingers" post-war strategy.
Next: you're right, too, that countries that don't aggressively pursue their own interests DO end up getting scooped by the countries that ARE more aggressive -- who's to say it wouldn't have been China or Iran gunning for oil-rich, politically unstable countries, if the U.S. wasn't in there -- I had an interesting talk in my conversation class about how the U.S. just built the world's fastest supercomputer for $100 million, while many Americans don't have access to basic health care. . . but then again, if U.S. doesn't building the world's fastest computer, China will, or Russia. That's true. And thanks for the info about Iraq's oil.
You're also right that people should be much more upset than they are about North Korea or Darfur -- the problem is, unlike the Dalai Lama for Tibet, they don't have charismatic and unbelievably wonderful spokespersons who shake hands with hollywood stars and bring public attention to their causes.
I'm glad you enjoy my blog, and I also really appreciate your taking the time to weigh in on some of my posts.
Meanwhile. . . which two Errol Flynn/other old swashbuckling adventure movies should I order first, in order to be convinced?
Much of your take on the movie "Taken" would have been my own take perhaps couple of years ago. Since then, my wife and I had a baby girl. And since then... You bet your ass I have Neeson's character a free pass. Hell, I gave him a season pass in the luxury box equipped with both AC and DC power grids and all the rusty iron spikes and best gauge jumper cables.
I can recognize his acts as being evil, and God forbid, if something similar happens to my little girl, I wouldn't be able to do what he did. Not because I didn't want to, but because I know I couldn't pull it off. I lack, to paraphrase the dialogue, Neeson's character's particular set of skills that would make me a nightmere to guys like the kidnappers. But if I had those skills, yeah. I would track them all down and do everything Neeson's character did and more.
Thanks for weighing in, Juicy. I wonder if my view will change when/if I become a father.
Until then, I do understand your position, though I wonder how you plan to do "more" than torture and kill them.
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