Friday, 10 June 2011

I have this running through my head. So you will, too.

I mean... if you press play.

The Olympics are fascinating
"Hand in Hand" - the Official Olympic Theme Song of the 1988 Games.



one of my dogs has an ear infection she keeps scratching. So we put her in one of those cone things that would totally get her teased by the other dogs at the playground. Poor thing.

Also funny:

14 comments:

JLR said...

Oh, poor doggie! How cute she is, though. It's the kind of thing where you simultaneously want to laugh at how ridiculous she looks and hug her because of how sad she looks.

jjj_alltheway said...

I guess Koreans singing a song in English didn't go down very well since the next chance they had at an International song(Worldcup 2002), it was completely in Korean. You can't speak of the Seoul 1988 Olypics without mentioning this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJYBV9BXQNY

jjj_alltheway said...

Here is part of the play by play(begins at approx. 3 minute mark) and interview with Roy Jones Jr. after the fight...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2OHl7V5plA

Korean were pissed at NBC(Peacock symbol)...
THE SEOUL OLYMPICS; U.S. Olympic Reporting Hits a Raw Korean Nerve
http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/28/world/the-seoul-olympics-us-olympic-reporting-hits-a-raw-korean-nerve.html?src=pm

Rob-o-SE-yo said...

"you can't speak of the Seoul 1988 Olympics without mentioning this"

that depends on the topic of my paper, JJJ.

And the NYT piece was about NBC coverage of the Korean boxer Byun Jong-il's hour plus sit-in after he lost a controversial match, as well as NBC reports on things you might call the "seamy underside" of Seoul, exacerbated by some badly behaved GIs before the games, not about the jones/park match.

You can read about it on google books: Page 215-227. "Global Television and the politics of the Seoul Olympics" gives a pretty detailed account.
http://bit.ly/kkjI3s

jjj_alltheway said...

Yes but within "this" is a lot, not just the Roy Jones Jr. match. Not even "speaking" or at least mentioning "this" in your paper I would think would be doing your audience(if your audience is not only Koreans) a disservice.

jjj_alltheway said...

Anyway, thanks for that google info.

Rob-o-SE-yo said...

Interesting you think so, JJJ. Judging, scoring, boxing, scoring scandals, and alleged judge corruption and/or IOC corruption are not my topic...

But... a bunch of Americans talking about how an American got jilted? Go cry on the 36 other gold medals you won at those games. I'm a firm believer in sports Karma (except if you're from cleveland: the sports gods just hate cleveland); what goes around, comes around, and a bad bounce one day will balance out with a lucky bounce another day. In the end, it's just too bad nothing came of Roy Jones Jr. after he was robbed there. It's like he shriveled up and gave up on boxing forever.

I'm not saying that the Roy Jones decision wasn't rotten, but if 36 of 37 decisions in LA went America's way, that Roy Jones match probably wasn't the only bad apple in the barrel. Should everybody who writes about the LA '84 games mention that? Even if they're writing about urban renewal, cold war politics, or food hygiene in the Olympic village cafeteria?

My audience is Dr. Kim, and he prefers I stay on topic, and if fishy olympic decisions were my topic, Roy Jones would only be the tip of the iceberg.

Interestingly, in the literally hundreds and hundreds of pages of scholarship I've read on different aspects of the '88 games, I don't think I saw Roy Jones's name once, so... disservice that. I'm guessing because I've been reading analysis, not anecdote. And as a Canadian, sorry to tell you, but the memory of Ben Johnson sticks stronger than Roy Jones.

Personally, I'm more bothered by this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/jun/23/sportfeatures.worldcupfootball2002

anyway, have a good night.

jjj_alltheway said...

I found the Jong, Byun-il video(excellent quality)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVDz3XfBQa8

A Sad Day in Seoul...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1067807/index.htm

I often hear how Korea is changing but I certainly haven't seen many changes in the behavior in its people when the Olympics or World Cup soccer is concerned.

Also, I think the western press gave Koreans too much praise in 1988 having to do with their English ability as seen with Mr. Yun, the boxing coach had poor English listening skills.

Case is point on how behavior hasn't changed...
"We will use all measures necessary to rectify the misjudgment" said a South Korean Olympic team head about Apolo Anton Ohno during the 2002 Olympics...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/olympics/2002/speed_skating/news/2002/02/21/south_korea_lawsuit_ap/

The Korean media is infamous in misquoting Apolo Anton Ohno to turn the Korean people against anything foreign/Japan.

Thanks to Matt(his New York Times link below is dead for whatever reason, however I was able to find and provide)...
http://populargusts.blogspot.com/2008/11/anger-at-foreign-coverage-of-korea-in.html

So Robo, what's your paper about?

jjj_alltheway said...

Good grief, are you trying to justify the cheating that went on during Seoul 1988?...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Games_scandals_and_controversies
"In a highly controversial 3-2 judge's decision, South Korean boxer Park Si-Hun defeated American Roy Jones, Jr., despite Jones pummeling Park for three rounds, landing 86 punches to Park's 32. Allegedly, Park himself apologized to Jones afterward. One judge shortly thereafter admitted the decision was a mistake, and all three judges voting against Jones were eventually suspended. The official IOC investigation concluding in 1997 found no wrongdoing, and the IOC still officially stands by the decision. A similarly controversial decision went against U.S. team member Michael Carbajal. These incidents led Olympic organizers to establish a new scoring system for boxing...

Sure Roboseyo, Americans never get cheated:(

Let me see you get screwed like Roy Jones Jr. and come back from such an incident, nonetheless I don't think you know much about Roy Jones Jr. He was very successful champion after Seoul 1988, why would you suggest otherwise?

Most importantly, please find me an American Olympic poor sport(s) that could even compare to the Jong, Byun-il violent video or cheating(big time pay off) as seen in Seoul 1988?

Poor Sportmanship and cheating/bribery of judges is the issue, show me an unfair boxing match in Los Angelos 1984 that even comes close to the Roy Jones Jr. 1988 Seoul Olympics boxing match. I'll be waiting!!!

jjj_alltheway said...

Okay, since where I'm from seems to be an issue let me guess, you decided to come to S. Korea when you met Koreans hating on America in Toronto? Frankly, I never knew Canadians hated Americans so much until I arrived in Korea but that's just me.

Rob-o-SE-yo said...

hmm. I seem to have forgotten to hit the sarcasm button.

settle down there, jj. and work on the triple posting.

jjj_alltheway said...

Sorry, I'm still curious about your topic? If I'm not mistaken you've posted about 3 times on your paper but have yet to inform us what exactly your paper is going to be about?

Rob-o-SE-yo said...

Construction of a Korean national narrative and cultural self-representation to a global audience at the '88 games is the topic of the paper I just finished.

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